In the final season ofBetter Call Saul, Kim Wexler (Rhea Seehorn) lived to tell.
And as a result, she might now be able to live with herself.
(An extra 79 years on his sentence.)
Rhea Seehorn as Kim Wexler on ‘Better Call Saul’.Greg Lewis/AMC
), speaking very few words, but saying so much to each other.
What happened was not okay, but they were okay.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Justice was served.
Humanity was found, but maybe not in exactly the way people were expecting.
What were your first thoughts when you read that finale script?
RHEA SEEHORN:I found it incredibly moving.
I had no idea exactly how they were going to end it.
I think that it was, to me, perfect.
I just think it was more honoring of what our show ended up being about.
What was the question you pondered the most?
They said, “We are trying to ask ourselves, what does a character like Jimmy McGill deserve?
And deserve being triple underlined.
Does he deserve any happiness in life?
Does he deserve love?
Does he deserve any redemption?”
And then later they started asking themselves, “What does the character like Kim Wexler deserve?
Her Florida life is perfectly fine, but there’s nothing there that she’s passionate about.”
We are aware of each of their potential.
And because I’m a hopeless romantic [laughs], I think it gets a little bit brighter.
Not a lot, but a little bit brighter after this day.
The courtroom scene is another gift for fans into the facial decoding of Kim.
It’s very complex.
And the journey, the biggest one, is she’s there enraged and also deeply hurt.
She says, “If he is in fact alive.”
She never lets the feds tap her phone.
She never says, “I heard from him.”
I think, because of true love, she will not participate in making his life worse.
And telling him to turn himself in she truly thinks is to help him make his life better.
Not just in some religious salvation way.
Yeah, it is to unburden your soul.
But it’s also like, “How is your life going to end?
Eventually someone’s going to find you and shoot you.
What is that life going to be?”
So there’s a relief to find out that’s not what this is about.
Also, she’s seeing him in his full Saul glory.
They could have been great.
And what does she think of that?
It’s impressive, but that’s not exactly coming clean.
But I do think the way Bob played it beautifully, she realizes this is all true.
She’s smart enough to know, “Oh, this sentence is going to be very hefty.”
Kim did not make him make this decision as has been true of these two for a long time.
She gives him his own agency, just as much as she insists that people give her hers.
I know it’ll be open to interpretation.
People will think that she was incriminating him when she went to the law.
But I don’t.
She never said, “And by the way, he went and got cartel money.”
And everybody that was involved is dead.
She’s volunteering at the legal clinic.
She may not think she deserves to be a lawyer yet, but she can start by answering phones.
How do you assess where she is on her journey?
And how long before she’s running that clinic?
It remains to be seen.
I honestly think that that’s one of the beautiful things about this finale.
Peter wanted people to continue to think about the next day and the next year for these characters.
They’re very large, messy questions.
That is possible that I could actually give back.
I think she’ll struggle with that question for a long time.
And I don’t think that’s the last time they’ll see each other.
Not by a long shot.
But that’s me.
But I don’t.
How much love is still there?
And it sounds like the answer is probably a fair amount.
Bob would have to give his side of it.
I personally think she still loves him.
Does that make it impossible to romantically be in love with the person?
And I don’t just mean as a friend.
I think that she still deeply loves him.
The dialogue is minimal.
The emotions are maximum.
There’s so much there, unspoken.
It’s bittersweet, but they see each other now for who they really are.
What was being said in the silence?
And I found that just so touching.
It’s very emotional… And I seldom stay in character between takes.
She can’t let Jimmy see how scared and worried she is.
It’s going to bubble up and he sees it.
Bob, as Jimmy could see it, and became very caretaking in the moment.
But she can’t cry there.
It’s the wrong thing to do.
And to fall apart in that scene would be the wrong thing to do as Kim.
Kim would think it was the wrong thing to do.
He shoots her the finger guns, which carry significant weight on the show.
What strikes you about that being the final image, her walking away and lookingback at him?
Did those finger guns signal their everlasting connection and/or “What a ride it was”?
It’s very purposely left to interpretation of exactly like you said.
Is this him just saying, “Man, we had a great run and it’s okay”?
Or is it him saying we’re still great together.
And we could still do something together.
We could still legally do something together.
In whatever capacity that is.
Not everything about what we were together is bad.
There’s something great about the two of us together."
There’s still a connection, however ill-defined.
They’ll need to find it.
How difficult has it been to bid farewell to this show?
Really hard, but I think it’s going to be harder after seeing the finale.
Because while it’s still airing, it doesn’t feel over.
And then in a couple months we pack up our U-Haul and go to Albuquerque.
At least the end of their story on camera.
And I think that’s going to be hard.
I loved how we went about working on it.
It was a really magical experience to watch people bring these things to life.
And I’ll miss that.
The last question is a simple one.
When can you start on the Kim spin-off?
If they want to do one, I will do it!
