Warning: this article contains spoilers forHeretic.

Heretichas alotto say about theology but don’t worry, it’s not a full-on sermon.

“We got to the point where we realized, ‘We don’t know enough to write this movie.

HERETIC, from left: Chloe East, Hugh Grant, Sophie Thatcher, 2024

Hugh Grant in ‘Heretic’.Kimberley French /A24 / Courtesy Everett Collection

We have no idea.

He’s talking about things that we just truly don’t know much about.'”

“We’re trying to find ways to express these complex ideas that we didn’t understand before.

STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE, Jar Jar Binks, 1999

Jar Jar Binks in ‘Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace’.Lucasfilm Ltd./courtesy Everett / Everett Collection

We did the research to explain it to the versions of us who hadn’t done the research.”

The most important pop cultural touchstone in Reed’s lecture is a divisive board game.

“That felt connected to religion to us, the origin story of Monopoly.

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - JANUARY 06: Topher Grace arrives at the The Art Of Elysium’s 2024 HEAVEN Gala at The Wiltern on January 06, 2024 in Los Angeles, California.

Topher Grace in 2024.Steve Granitz/FilmMagic

The moment prompts Grant to launch into a hilarious (and unfortunately brief) Jar Jar Binks impression.

“And we were like, ‘No, David.

“In my infinite thoroughness, I researched it and I did watch a bit of it.

I think I YouTubed it.”

Beck says Grant didn’t reveal his Binks impression until the directors yelled “action.”

And it was that moment of just being real and authentic and yet hilarious.

“Normally, as a writer, anti-climax, you stay the f— away from.

That’s not something you ever want to mess with because it’s inherently disappointing.

And so we wanted to play with this idea of anti-climax.”

“If it’sThe Shining, you haveScatman Crothers; if it’sMisery, you have Richard Farnsworth.

Luckily, Topher got what we were going for.

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These interviews have been edited for clarity and length.