The ousted player also reveals how he picked his Shot in the Dark scroll.
He’s not Batman.
He’s the Canadian.

Kaleb Gebrewold on ‘Survivor 45’.Robert Voets/CBS
But the Canadian got voted out ofSurvivor 45on this week’s double-elimination episode.
Once Katurah flipped, Kaleb’s game was over.
Dee was then insistent that the Vancouver software salesman be the next to go.

Kaleb Gebrewold on ‘Survivor 45’.Robert Voets/CBS
Does Kaleb regret telling Katurah about Bruce’s idol?
What does he make of Bruce turning on him in the game?
We asked Kaleb all that and more the morning after his televised ouster.

Kaleb Gebrewold on ‘Survivor 45’.Robert Voets/CBS
and you might watch the entire interview above or read it below.
(Also see to it to check out ourexit Q&A with Sifu Alsup.)
So I’d rather own the information as the first realistic checkpoint.

Kaleb Gebrewold on ‘Survivor 45’.Robert Voets/CBS
And the challenge was I treated her like I treated Emily for some reason.
She was always at the bottom.
I didn’t really get it at Belo, but she had [made] some mistakes socially.

Kaleb Gebrewold on ‘Survivor 45’.Robert Voets/CBS
But I looked out for her as much as I possibly could.
That was ultimately the thing, and I knew she knew that.
And my pitch is basically: “This is our last chance to have agency.
We need each other.”
It’s tough because you always have hindsight.
Should you have lied?
Should you have not told her?
Should you have told her a different way?
I was so close to getting there.
Well, I think your move makes sense, and I think her reaction also makes sense.
But why do you think Bruce turned on you at the merge?
You ever hear of attachment-style relationships?
But at the end of the day, we were all strategic enough to know we needed each other.
And I did everything to try and get Bruce in the fold.
I just felt like I was Bruce’s bitch for four days.
I did everything the guy asked for and I never gave him any back talk.
And we traded personal stories.
I heard about his child, his upbringing.
I told him about the times I almost went bankrupt [during] my first year of business.
I really think we invested in each other.
And he decided to take out the person who’s maybe with you.
And I think he hurt his own game and other people’s by doing that.
How surprised were you that she took such offense to that?
But if you get rid of J, you’re not a target anymore.
Let me help you."
And Dee really was just like, “Well, you said my name once.”
It is what it is.
And to be fair, I know everyone talks about how I talked to everybody at the merge beach.
Really, I talked to Belo and then I talked to some of the meat shield guys on Reba.
I don’t think I had any one-on-ones.
I think J was definitely originally the boot, Reba wanted her out.
Bruce flipped on Belo and then Reba was kind of like, “This is a free roll.
We get to take out a big threat and no one’s going to be mad at us.
How do we say no to this?”
They were planning on taking out J.
With the Bruce flip, they just thought it was a freebie.
I don’t know what it is about me."
I can’t tell you how much I tried to tone it down.
That’s the funny part.
Should we take him out?"
And did they think I was just going to flip the entire time?
It’s obvious, right?
So I’m trying to keep around a social threat or a physical threat or a strategic threat.
I want to keep as many shields around.
That was my plan.
And it just turns out that most of the shields wanted to take me out of this game.
And I can’t tell you why.
How did you pick the Safe scroll?
Did you feel around in the bag for a while?
Was it the first one you touched?
Take me through that process.
It’s so funny.
I always said: “You know what I like about the new era?
Because I’m the luckiest guy.
I know the more variants, the more this is going to probably work out for me.”
It couldn’t have gone more wrong.
I had almost everything go against me with all these twists in this game.
And theone timethat I finally got a stroke of luck was the Shot in the Dark.
Is that what they want me to do right now?
Are they giving this to me or not?"
And I was like, “I can’t fall for the first one.”
The Shot in the Dark just feels like such low odds.
So I go down there and give it to Jeff and you know what?
I’m lucky to make history.
I think I deserve the least amount of blame.
I blacked out as soon as I got it.
And so, yeah, I completely blacked out [during] the vote count.
It’s really too bad that it didn’t happen that way.
I think it would’ve been a very exciting Tribal Council for TV.
Jake also told me to play my Shot in the Dark.
The votes are coming for you right now."
After the vote, people were talking about how Kendra and Katurah looked too happy.
He’s looking for idols everywhere.
And J Maya, she’s so strategic.
She’s trying to decode the map."
Then what do you think happens this week if you guys aren’t split up?
Is it you or is it Sifu this week, or is it someone else?
And the other one was Drew.
And I just felt for Austin and Sifu.
So, to me, I felt like Drew was probably the biggest strategic threat.
And then Bruce was probably the next best thing if he was eligible because he had an idol.
And when somebody is so stark against you, it’s an immovable object.
And Sabiyah is there dying and Emily has her arm around her.
Dr. Joe’s over there, he’s dumping ice water on her.
And I’m like, “Sabiyah, don’t worry about it.
I need to ask them about the Shot in the Dark anyway.”
you’ve got the option to’t let her do it.
you’ve got the option to’t let her put this thing in the fire."
I thought I had Emily, right?
Do you bring fire home for Sabiyah?
And I remember having a talk saying, “You know what?
There’s no chance I do that.
This is the only power I have left in this game.”
I never wanted to take Sabiyah out until I really knew she was gunning for me.
I really wanted Sean.
Emily and I came together and decided not to do that.
She’s like, “That’s when I knew I probably was the swing.”
When they invariably ask you to playSurvivoragain if they have not already what will you say?
I got a backpack by the door.
If I get the call, it would be an honor.
Maybe some things go differently.