“We tossed it.
It was a moment.”
“We were both for Supporting [Actress].”

Kathy Bates and Meryl Streep at the 2003 Oscars.Credit:SGranitz/WireImage (2)
“So we went to the bar.
It was a veryJoan Crawford,Bette Davismoment.”
“I said, ‘I’m having what she’s having.'”

Catherine Zeta-Jones at the 2003 Oscars.J. Vespa/WireImage
Bates continued, “We tossed it.
It was a moment.
That we thought, ‘Oh, we’re so close.’
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Bates had one role in 1995 that she thought rivaled Streep’s transformations.
“I could never do it.
I could never attempt doing it.
And I’m envious of it.”
Listen to Bates’ full conversation with Ferguson above.