The two chat with EW’s “The Awardist” podcast about the true-crime series from Ryan Murphy.

“Cooper and I just met, by the way.

“The scene ends, and I’m like, ‘Oh my God, are you okay?’

The Awardist Podcast composite with Nicholas Alexander Chavez and Cooper Koch for Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story

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They both got the jobs, of course.

His conclusion: “Ultimately, Lyle is just a wounded, wounded boy.

When “the mask falls,” Chavez says, were the hardest scenes for him.

Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story. (L to R) Nicholas Chavez as Lyle Menendez, Cooper Koch as Erik Menendez, Javier Bardem as Jose Menendez in episode 206

Nicholas Chavez as Lyle Menendez, Cooper Koch as Erik Menendez, Javier Bardem as José Menendez in ‘Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story’.Miles Crist/Netflix

“You have nothing to hide behind.

you’ve got the option to’t act like someone who is confident, or has the bravado.

you’ve got the option to’t act like your dad.

Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story. (L to R) Ari Graynor as Leslie Abramson, Cooper Koch as Erik Menendez in episode 205 of Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story.

you’re able to’t act like a record label executive.

You just have to be that wounded 10-year-old boy.”

“It became the whole throughline for my character.

Brad Culver, Nicholas Alexander Chavez, and Cooper Koch in ‘Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story’

And thematically, it was about identity,” Koch explains.

What do I want, and what am I without the experiences that I’ve had?

And does that define me?

Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story

Nicholas Alexander Chavez in ‘Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story’.Miles Crist/Netflix

Does that not define me?

Am I a tennis player?

Am I an actor?

Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story. (L to R) Ari Graynor as Leslie Abramson, Cooper Koch as Erik Menendez in episode 205 of Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story.

Ari Graynor and Cooper Koch in ‘Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story’.Miles Crist/Netflix

Am I a writer?

Who am I?'”

“That was the first time I saw the mask come off, which was so heartbreaking.

Brad Culver, Nicholas Alexander Chavez, and Cooper Koch in ‘Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story’

Brad Culver, Nicholas Alexander Chavez, and Cooper Koch in ‘Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story’.Miles Crist/Netflix

He’s sort of struggling with this too, it’s not just me.

‘…It just felt so real, and we had to do it so many times.”

Chavez admits there’s “so much to be impressed by” from Koch.

Does that make me an even worse person?’

And I just thought that Cooper played those moments beautifully.”

I say really horrible things,” he admits.

It’s 30 years later, 35 years later.

I just think it’s ridiculous.

That was just his recommendation.

However, they do have another route of going to their parole board hearing, which is in June.

And so, that looks really positive.

I spoke with Erik last week, and he’s still very nervous but also really hopeful and excited.

I’m the same."