The fifth-place finisher also says she would have won had Katurah not changed her vote.
It wasnt supposed to go down like that.
Julie Alley should have been in the final four ofSurvivor 45.
Katurah Topps, Emily Flippen, Julie Alley, and Dee Valladares on ‘Survivor 45’.CBS
What would have happened had Julie made it through that vote?
Would she have won the game?
We asked Mama J exactly then when we spoke the morning after theSurvivor 45finale.
Julie Alley on ‘Survivor 45’.CBS
And we had other questions.
Questions like: How come you voted for Jake even though everyone said he had an idol?
Did you really almost voteAustinout instead ofEmilyat the final seven?
Julie Alley on ‘Survivor 45’.
(Also check out our finale interviews withDee,Austin,Jake,Katurah, and hostJeff Probst.)
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What was going on at that final five Tribal Council vote?
Everyone was all over the place, and you decided to vote for someone who had an immunity idol.
Julie Alley on ‘Survivor 45’.CBS
That was the craziest vote.
I’m like, I don’t care!
I’m the one at risk.
Julie Alley on ‘Survivor 45’.CBS
We all write Jake.
I’m the one at risk.
I’ll take that risk.
And obviously I couldn’t convince them.
I think she means me.
So I knew and I was ready.
I was like, this is what’s going to happen.
I’ve played my best game, but I couldn’t control other people.
When you had the Reba four, it was amazing.
And we just picked.
We were like, You’re out!
And it was so much fun.
This one didn’t happen like that.
So I guess she wrote my name down.
How weird would that have been if she had stuck with Dee?!
I would have won.
Jeff Probst told meyou would have won.
In the game, I felt the entire time, I’m going to win.
And so, I dont know.
But I did know in the game, I didn’t care who I sat next to.
I was like, I’m going to win.
That was so cocky, and I don’t think I believe that now.
But that’s how I felt, which is crazy.
I wasn’t that much of a physical threat.
I think it was just my social game.
I loved my cast.
It was an amazing cast, and they knew I loved him.
So I think that’s a weird way to play.
But that was my goal and that’s how I played.
They were like, Wait, what happened?
Y’all are seeing an animated jury that we didn’t see in real life.
And that’s why we really didn’t know where we stood.
So coming back and getting the heros welcome, they’re all like, Mama J!"
It was greatest night ever.
We had two seconds.
So I know she feels bad.
She’s like, “I got to get this information across.”
So I get that.
And everyone’s like, Oh, you should have taken out Austin.
He had an idol in his pocket."
And I’m like, yeah, that would’ve been so flashy.
That would’ve been so cool.
But I couldn’t see my way to the end.
Had I taken Austin out then, now I’ve got Drew and Emily.
Emily is the biggest gamer, amazing player out there.
I put that on her and I’m like, she’s got to go.
But it makes me look like I didn’t have a say in that.
And that was hard for me because I did get my feelings hurt.
I was such an emotional player in that it was all relationships.
That was my best gameplay, was to get Emily out.
And I still stand behind it.
She was fighting for her life.
So I don’t blame her for taking credit for my move.
The Kellie and Kendra votes were the hardest.
I really believed what I was telling each person.
But then things would change.
I felt like my role I was the closer.
Kellie came up to me and she was like, Mama J, I don’t feel good.
I’ve seen people talking.
I don’t feel good.
And I was like, You’re fine, you’re fine.
Trust me on this.
So when she turned around and was like, What the hell guys?
I was like, Oh, you mean me?
We were all involved, but I felt it.
And then I did the exact same thing to Kendra!
I meant it when we were eating our chicken that we were going to go together.
But then things changed and she’s like, I don’t have a good feeling.
And I’m like, You’re fine.
It’s you and me.
So I completely lied to her.
Then everyone else when I was like, Nope, you got to go."
And I needed Kellie to go out because I needed her spot with Bruce.
I didn’t trust her.
I needed her gone.
And then Kendra, I needed her gone because she was coming after my girl, Dee.
The betrayal really hurt after those two, but after that, I didn’t feel so bad.
Whats something that happened this season that we didnt get a chance to see on TV?
I was up at night and couldn’t sleep, but it ended up working to my advantage.
And once Sifu started snoring, I knew he was out.
They don’t show how tight the four of us are.
Nobody knew because we always met at night.
We would share all of our intel at night.
But we got caught.
And they’re all like, No, they’re not.
No one else did.
