The ousted contestant says “someone should be fired” if he is not brought back to play again.

How does Gabe feel now about making that trade?

What did he mean by calling someone a snake on his way out?

Gabe Ortis and Jeff Probst on ‘Survivor 47’

Gabe Ortis and Jeff Probst on ‘Survivor 47’.CBS

And does he stand by his boast to Probst that he will be back to play again?

We caught up with the 26-year-old Charm City radio host to ask him all that and more.

GABE ORTIS:Dude, when Sol walked into Tribal, it was like a bomb went off.

Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’

Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’.CBS

Everybody’s head just whipped over and it was all we could look at.

It was like this just power duo just walked into Tribal Council and they weren’t even participating.

And you didn’t even get to see the full outfit.

Teeny Chirichillo and Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’

Teeny Chirichillo and Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’.CBS

I was ready for him to start hurling fireballs out of his hands!

He had the red shoes on, too.

It was like, I’ve never seen anything like that before.

Gabe Ortis and Caroline Vidmar on ‘Survivor 47’

Gabe Ortis and Caroline Vidmar on ‘Survivor 47’.Robert Voets/CBS

And he walks out like that, no smile, mean-mugging everybody.

It was just awesome.

What was your level of surprise to see your name come up on parchment that many times?

Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’

Gabe Ortis on ‘Survivor 47’.CBS

Not particularly surprising, to be honest with you.

So when I saw two Genevieves pop up, I was like, We got a shot here.

We got maybe a better shot than I thought.

Rachel LaMont, Sue Smey, Gabe Ortis, and Caroline Vidmar on ‘Survivor 47’

Rachel LaMont, Sue Smey, Gabe Ortis, and Caroline Vidmar on ‘Survivor 47’.Robert Voets/CBS

But if I did get through nine, then my path to the end was crystal clear.

And kudos to them for it.

It was a good move.

‘Survivor 47’ contestant Gabe Ortis

‘Survivor 47’ contestant Gabe Ortis.Robert Voets/CBS

It’s what they should have done.

Was that your path?

Is that what you wanted to do?

Oh yeah, the entire time that was what I wanted to do.

And if we make it to eight, then we have four Tukus versus four of everybody else.

And then the obvious path is you just brute force your way to the end with all the Tuku.

Speaking of snakes, you told Caroline Got a little snake in you, after the vote.

Was that a sign of respect?

A little of both?

That was directed towards Teeny, actually.

And so Teeny was somebody who I felt really good about voting for Genevieve that night.

One of the biggest parts ofSurvivorgameplay is keeping your troops in line.

Did you underestimate Caroline and Kyle in that respect that they would turn on you?

I think that one of my big missteps in the game was early in the game.

The only person that would hear about what I was doing maybe before Caroline was Sue.

And I mean it was within minutes.

I would go talk to Sue, then I would go talk to Caroline, or vice versa.

I talked to a lot of people on the island about voting out Genevieve.

And then I told Caroline.

So what’s going on here?

Am I not part of your plans anymore?

Do you not see me as a peer the way that you did early in the game?

It honestly was just a habit thing.

And you just get into these habits out there of like: Okay, who’s my checklist?

Who am I talking to today?

And Caroline just completely subconsciously fell down that priority list.

I think that was a big misstep by me because then she was like, Well, hold on.

You were my number one.

I’m hearing it from other people.

So I don’t think I underestimated Caroline.

I think I should have been more proactive in saying, Am I managing this relationship with Caroline still?

I think I took for granted how unspoken our trust was.

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You fought really hard to get everyone to give up their Shots in the Dark.

Would you have used your Shot in the Dark at Tribal Council if you’d had it?

I always, always, always, always value having my vote in the game more than anything else.

I never wanted to use my Shot in the Dark because I wanted to have my vote.

So even if I had my Shot in the Dark, I never would’ve played it.

I always want to be putting pen to paper.

So I never would’ve played it even if I had it.

Why did Kyle tell you it was you or Genevieve?

Do you think Kyle was hoping to keep you but then saw which way the wind was blowing?

I think he was trying to suss me out to see if I had anything.

And I was like, I got nothing.

And he was like, I don’t feel good about tonight.

And I said, Why?

Lets play a game ofSurvivorWhat If?

If Kyle had not won immunity, what do you think would have happened with the vote?

That’s really interesting.

I think I would’ve been willing to write Kyle’s name down.

Sue obviously would’ve written Kyle’s name down.

So I think that it would’ve been between me and Kyle.

I think Genevieve would’ve done it.

I think that Sue would’ve done it.

I think I would’ve done it.

I think Caroline definitely would’ve done it.

Caroline was very intimidated by Kyle at that point in the game.

Total spur of the moment thing.

So yeah, total spur of the moment thing.

Do you still think youll be asked back?

I mean, come on.

If I’m not, somebody should get fired.

How would you play differently if you ended up back on the isand?

And I was like, You two are my number ones.

Let’s go do this thing.

I can’t believe that he calledyoua loser.

I can’t believe that he threw that onyou.

Now I knew what TK was trying to say.

He was giving a rah rah locker room football speech, but that’s not how Tiyana took it.

And I just press as much as I can that TK calledyoua loser.

It wasn’t a rah rah speech, he wasn’t talking about everybody.

He was talking aboutyou, Tiyana.

And I was like, He’s going home after this.

And I think that was really the moment where Tiyana was like, Okay, let’s do this.

But I wish that it was shown how much more involved in getting Tiyana to swing over I was.